Hydrogen Fuel Cell Co-generation Home Heating Concept Test

Hydrogen fuel cell co-generation home heating system, small unit proof of concept using off the shelf parts. A fuel cell is about 45% efficient at generating electricity, so for 1 kilowatt of electrical power produced approximately 1 kilowatt of heat is produce by the fuel cell stack. As a by-product, water is produced as well. This video demonstrates heating of my 20 foot boat while charging its battery bank and then heating of a 200 square foot room in my home using a small 500 watt oil filled electric heater to control the system.
Video Rating: 4 / 5

Here is another mini torch experiment with 1/2″ black pipe end cap from home-depot. Regards, sirHOAX

30 Responses to “Hydrogen Fuel Cell Co-generation Home Heating Concept Test”

  • a1mint on November 23, 2011

    Any heater that uses electricity as its energy source is exactly 100% efficient because every Watt of electricity used is converter to heat. There are no other output/losses possible.

    That means that a $20 Walmart space heater is just as efficient as using electricity to convert water to hydrogen and burning that hydrogen again.

    The *ONLY* advantage from this is that you’re getting free distilled water from it – which can be advantageous in places where there is no good water.

  • richardlyew on November 23, 2011

    make a hho generator to make pure hydrogen and oxygen then compress the hydrogen and reuse it.

  • wafi0123 on November 23, 2011

    hydrogen is the future VASIMR

  • 48jimd2 on November 23, 2011

    @plica06 This was just a basic test to show that heat comes from both the electric heater (15 degree C) and heat comes from the fuel cell (19 degree C). In about 2 months, I will be demonstrating the next stage which is a Tily 1 kw heat-pump powered from the H2000 fuel cell directly via a modified 36 VDC Kipoint 1800 watt 115 VAC inverter. I will try to make things cleared. Thank you for your comment.

  • plica06 on November 23, 2011

    The explanation of this was terrible, I had no idea what was going on.

  • ProductionRadical on November 23, 2011

    Hi. I don’t think the pipe is getting hot enough. If you get a hotter flame (more HHO) then you can heat a bigger block of iron. It will get red and boil a larger amount of water. Then you can collect the steam, concentrate, and use it to power a turbine. This turbine can recharge the batteries used for making the HHO, and power fans that can blow the heat from the red hot metal into the room. You can get an independent home heating unit that needs no electricity. I’m only imagined it so far.

  • LongWardenerneth on November 23, 2011

    @hto1971 WhAt would be nice or amazing if we could get a large enough pwoer generation is the power mat tech adapted to work with a pulse wave modulator

  • brianpisces on November 23, 2011

    I love it

  • TheBillythekid2010 on November 23, 2011

    Hey sirHoax, have you been working on update? Nice vid keep them comming!!!!

  • WuTangghost0007 on November 23, 2011

    did you buy the torch tip or make it?.

  • maxrep1974 on November 23, 2011

    this is the same idea, basically, that I have been planning to do after I complete making my sterling engine. just have a the hho flame heat a larger iron container of water and let the heat drive the sterling engine with a highly efficient generator attached to it… I am thinking that the electricity produced will be more than enough to provide the electricity for the HHO generator. Especially if the HHO generator is a Joe cell or meyers WFC design.

  • xxx777aaa on November 23, 2011

    can you put two spark arrestors on the same hho line? i ask cuz it seems as though it would b safer with 2 fail safes.. ive seen spark arrestors as simple as a ciggarette butt opened up and stuffed in the orifice

  • luc59457 on November 23, 2011

    Yes but you are also looking at the factor of cost.. Good ceramics are highly expensive.. You will want this system to be comparable (when enlarged) in several ways to the already existing heating methods, for cooking, house heating etc.. What I like about this is you don’t need sun to make some serious heat. And I am betting you do not need too much amps either. But to make a good amount of heat for a home, you will need a much larger system that will require more Current. Plus more dangers.

  • ScorpionFrog420 on November 23, 2011

    you could put the water through a radiator

  • ewmegoolies on November 23, 2011

    I wanted to see the ceramics used as well! Xogen had a ceramic heat exchanger, but they fancied themselves as gas producing manufacturers and fell on their collective face, the heat exchanger might have been their ticket to success…

  • virginislandstv on November 23, 2011

    not bad. 3 min flame!! but no bubbler? bad!!!! its a good idea to hve a back up just incase your arrester fails. good work!!
    now what about your car?

  • Stormrunner0002 on November 23, 2011

    I was thinking of some kind of a transfer unit with a finned ceramic pipe arrangement. Forced air would then blow across the fins taking the heated air to the house.

    Good ceramics can be heated to over 10 000 degrees with the same flame. Lots of BTUs.

  • kdkinen on November 23, 2011

    awesome, think this could be a full time hot water heater??

  • Patrick97123 on November 23, 2011

    You need a Bubbler to protect yourself, and your cell…Be Safe

  • sirHOAX on November 23, 2011

    We could do it. Just have to put our minds into it. The power source is key at this point. It does point to multiple batteries either in series or parallel configuration.

  • hto1971 on November 23, 2011

    why not the hho gas to a heater it would be gas that go into a house furnec

  • hhoguru232004 on November 23, 2011

    add a bubbler

  • xljimmy89 on November 23, 2011

    How many lpm are you running?

  • MattBlytheTheOne on November 23, 2011

    it is basically damping the burn effect by mixing the HHO with an inert gas.

  • MattBlytheTheOne on November 23, 2011

    No problem! the simplest method I have heard of is you feedback the exhaust gases from the outlet manifold, the extent of the mix regulates the rate off the hydrogen burn. It’s in Meyers patent for ‘Water Fuel Cell’ apparently depending on the mixture you can get any burn rate you want…

  • reftri on November 23, 2011

    1-What is the longest you have been able to a flame going?
    2-How many watts of power are you using?
    3-How much you can stored HHO?
    4-How far have you have going on this proto-type heater
    5-have you made new improvements to go longer with the heating process or to keep the flame a live,,for at least 1hr?

  • reftri on November 23, 2011

    can you give us and example of how you can mix HHO with a non-combustible gas,,,and be able to control the temparature of the flame caming out of a HHO torc?it will be really nice to explain it for all the readers out-here

  • Mekill60 on November 23, 2011

    wow, that probably will explode- The tube coming out of the the water should go through an other container with water to make HHO bubbles and have a tube coming out of that container to your torch.. I know this sounds confusing, but if you check on other vids, you can see that the people use two containers instead of 1.

  • mvonbraun on November 23, 2011

    4 July 08

    Thank you very much for your interesting, clever demonstration. I’m interested in a fuel cell for home energy during non sunlight hours when our Photo Voltaic (PV) system is sleeping.

    While watching your demonstration, it occurred to me that people like you are our best hope for clean, sustainable energy.

    I wish you all the luck that your interests, cleverness and dedication deserve. You are to be admired.

    Michael von Braun
    Major, Military Intelligence
    U.S. Army (R.A., rt.)

  • gazzzwp on November 23, 2011

    Hi Sir

    I am looking at quite an ambitious project – namely using HHO to heat a cast iron multifuel stove – possibly by filling it with fire brick material. Can you offer me any advice regarding flame spread/diffusion to enable this idea to work? I understand that a directed hydrogen flames are capable of cutting metals, and so I would need the flame to be mre spread. Do you think this wold be a question of nozzle diameter and gas pressure? Any ideas appreciated.


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